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his plans cannot be hijacked by the man he defeated in 2008, john mccain. this is too important. >> to show you how desperate john mccain is, here he is comparing benghazi to the bin laden raid? >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the raid there. every one of them. they are making a movie out of it. here we are ten weeks later and finally our ambassador of the united nations who appeared on every national sunday show has now said she gave false information concerning how this tragedy happened. >> we should point out the bin laden raid was a planned operation. >> and it was ours. >> how do they compare the two? >> they don't. he's sounding more and more deranged. that's a crazy thing to say. that was our operation. of course, we could answer questions. even then they got some details wrong. but this was an attack on us and it's complicated by some discomfort about knowing all the details about what's going on there. >> is susan rice in an untenable position? it's unusual for an ambassador to come out and defend his/herself. when
his plans cannot be hijacked by the man he defeated in 2008, john mccain. this is too important. >> to show you how desperate john mccain is, here he is comparing benghazi to the bin laden raid? >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the raid there. every one of them. they are making a movie out of it. here we are ten weeks later and finally our ambassador of the united nations who appeared on every national sunday show has now said she gave false...
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good to have you with us. >>> john mccain continues his attack on susan rice. where's this all going? joan walsh weighs in. >>> then the fight over the filibuster. this has been quite a discussion on liberal talk radio. a small rule change sparks a big debate over the future of the united states senate. what's at stake? that's next. stay with us. very sore looking kinda blistery. it was like a red rash... like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. i was a firefighter for 24 years. but, i have never encountered such a burning sensation until i had the shingles. i remember it well. i was in the back yard doing yard work. i had this irritation going on in my lower neck. i changed shirts because i thought there was something in the collar of the shirt irritating my neck. and i couldn't figure out what was going on. i had no idea it came from chickenpox. i always thought shingles was associated with people... a lot older than myself. i can tell you from experience, it is bad. it's something you never want to encounter. for more of the inside story, visi
good to have you with us. >>> john mccain continues his attack on susan rice. where's this all going? joan walsh weighs in. >>> then the fight over the filibuster. this has been quite a discussion on liberal talk radio. a small rule change sparks a big debate over the future of the united states senate. what's at stake? that's next. stay with us. very sore looking kinda blistery. it was like a red rash... like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. i was a...
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it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will they give president obama room to negotiate some kind of deal that gets through this hell coming january 1st. they say they won, the other side lost, they're going to fight. >>> plus democrats are moving to end the so-called silent filibuster which republicans have used to quietly say if you don't have 60 votes, you ain't going nowhere. this is the big question, if they're successful, it's possible, it's possible the democrats will be able to get some things done. we'll talk about that in a minute. they're going to be just like jimmy stewart
it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will...
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he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here. you have been involved in a major study, u.s. competitive project at harvard business school. engage thousands of people, thousands of voices, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders and come up with a eight point plan of things you are advocating. i have gone through and some of that makes a lot of sense to me. it would have made sense in the 1990s and the 1980s. what makes you think this is such a big deal now? >> i want to say we have had a chance to interact with the jobs council in the harvard business
he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation,...
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but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called her up there. >> no question about that. she's pushing these meetings, the one asking for these meetings. like i said, if this is auditioning to be our top diplomat, what that's what these meetings are about -- >> sometimes you go into meetings in diplomacy and you do come out aggressively because some foreign countries aren't our allies and aren't going to be. >> no question. >> as far as she can tell, john mccain doesn't seem like an alloy so it was a tough meeting. that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten
but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called...
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disaster, an opportunity to try to draw the sting out of the opposition that had been expressed by senator mccain and the others. obviously went in the opposite direction, when you have all three of the senators who participated in the meeting coming out after and saying they have more questions now than they did before. this was a bad meeting. no doubt about it. and i think part of the problem here is the -- is the continued focus by the white house, by susan rice, by people looking at it on these so-called talking points that somebody provided to her. i'll just put it this way based on my own experience in government. nobody who's truly competent rinsereads talking points for ay purpose. if you're good enough to be an official, you don't make up words. you follow policy asset by the president, but the notion you can be a cabinet-level official and be given talking points that you simply parrot without further question is mind-boggling to me. >> greta: senator harry reid, majority leader, issued a statement tonight, saying they were personal attacks of ambassador rice, but also said she's done n
disaster, an opportunity to try to draw the sting out of the opposition that had been expressed by senator mccain and the others. obviously went in the opposite direction, when you have all three of the senators who participated in the meeting coming out after and saying they have more questions now than they did before. this was a bad meeting. no doubt about it. and i think part of the problem here is the -- is the continued focus by the white house, by susan rice, by people looking at it on...
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where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well, certainly doesn't feel that they're willing lied to. >> bill: susan is calling us from rockford, illinois. hey, susan, good morning. >> caller: hi, susan rice didn't do a thing wrong. geraldo rivera admitted on his tv show, i watched it, he congratulated himself on coining the phrase benghazi gate -- >> of course he did. >> caller: and that's thousand all got started. it was a plan, i'm sure there was money involved. somebody got paid for making up the story. that woman didn't do a thing wrong. it was b.s. from the beginning. i think geraldo needs to serve community service for you know, i
where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well,...
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senator john mccain has. this is why senator hutchinson says these young people deserve a break stpw they want t break. >> they want to go to college and be part of our system. the best thing we can do to utilize their talents and the education they received is give them legal status and have them earn their way into permanent status. bill: how would this work, the achieve act. >> this would set up a three-stage visa system for those brought to the u.s. at a very young age. to qualify you have to be brought to the u.s. at 14 or younger. you have to be 28 years or younger to apply and no criminal record whatsoever and there would be a background check and a knowledge of english, u.s. history and u.s. government. those fighting for comprehensive immigration reform says this bill does not go far enough. it is not likely to see action during this lame-duck session, but some time next year. bill: now they think what, steve? >> they think it's time to take some kind of action toward immigration, and of course that
senator john mccain has. this is why senator hutchinson says these young people deserve a break stpw they want t break. >> they want to go to college and be part of our system. the best thing we can do to utilize their talents and the education they received is give them legal status and have them earn their way into permanent status. bill: how would this work, the achieve act. >> this would set up a three-stage visa system for those brought to the u.s. at a very young age. to...
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today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet with six senators. if she is nominated as next secretary of state she will need six republicans to vote for her to region the magic number of 60 for confirmation. so far republicans are not convinced. >> yesterday in talking to some of those to whom she talked i'm absolutely convinced in my mind bill, she is part of the cover-up. she knew all the time the cia information that was given to her. >> reporter: senators graham, mccain and ayotte tellingers after yesterday's meeting that the information let them more disturbed and not reassured about rice's benghazi comments that which portrayed the a tack as
today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet...
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the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration. china, same thing. and europe the same thing. immigration is our competitive advantage against the rest of the world as an economic power, a military power. >> so what other wounds would you look at? >> that's one piece. i think we need to look at -- and our candidates. we ran a candidate, rahmny, who was a great guy much he's not what the 86% of obama's ads said about him. but how do you make the case of how rahmny would govern when he was governor of massachusetts for four years, pre-tea party. >> let's stipulate rahmny was a bad candidate. how would you get a better
the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration....
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in washington, certainly not with senator mccain who has lots of criticism of the russian government, she is, i think, known as someone who uses very frank language that you can't use on tv. i think it is -- >> is that a bad thing, frank language? >> you know, i can't find any specific examples where her use of language has resulted in a negative or a positive outcome. so it is part of her style. it is part of her personality. she's at the same time quite personable and charming and comfortable in the sort of, you know, sort of, you know, among the diplomatic crowds, so i think it is -- she's the american ambassador. everyone's got to deal with her, got to deal with her on her terms. i don't know that impedes her ability to get work done. >> we shall see what will happen. colin lynch, nice to see you. thank you. >>> and from meeting with the president to changing diapers, how does yahoo's new ceo do it all? and what does the late football coach vince lombardi have to do with her success? we'll find out ahead. g? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend agai
in washington, certainly not with senator mccain who has lots of criticism of the russian government, she is, i think, known as someone who uses very frank language that you can't use on tv. i think it is -- >> is that a bad thing, frank language? >> you know, i can't find any specific examples where her use of language has resulted in a negative or a positive outcome. so it is part of her style. it is part of her personality. she's at the same time quite personable and charming and...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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obama seemed to be preparing for a fight. >> if senator john mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> reporter: senator ayotte said she would be willing to put a hold on a rice nomination which, under senate rules, means it would likely never come up for approval and effectively be dead. scott? >> pelley: margaret, thank you. who is susan rice? she held several positions in the collation on the national security council as an expert on african affairs and then as assistant secretary of state. rice was confirmed in the senate in 2009 unanimously for her current job as america's ambassador to the united nations. washington is also splitting tonight over the issue that is going to affect your taxes in just 34 days. that is the so-called fiscal cliff: automatic tax increases and federal budget cuts that will be imposed unless president obama and congress can make a deal on budget reform. not even everyone in the president's own party is with him on this and nancy cordes is on capitol hill for
obama seemed to be preparing for a fight. >> if senator john mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> reporter: senator ayotte said she would be willing to put a hold on a rice nomination which, under senate rules, means it would likely never come up for approval and effectively be dead. scott? >> pelley: margaret, thank you. who is susan rice? she held several positions in the...
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demonstrations, despite the defense from the white house, despite her sitting down with republicans john mccain, kelly ayotte and senator lindsey graham, it looks like that meeting at least from her point of view was unsuccessful. here is what those republicans had to say after their meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. concerning evidence that is overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> clearly the impression that was given of the information given to the american people was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. >> so key republicans not convinced. but top democrats like harry reid coming to her rescue saying, and i'm quoting here, the personal attacks against ambassador rice by certain republican senators have been outrageous and utterly unmoored from facts and reality. today she's back on the hill, meeting with the head of the homeland security committee saying she's not sure they have 60 votes to confirm her if, in fact, she's nominated. lynn >>> well, jill kelley, the tampa
demonstrations, despite the defense from the white house, despite her sitting down with republicans john mccain, kelly ayotte and senator lindsey graham, it looks like that meeting at least from her point of view was unsuccessful. here is what those republicans had to say after their meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. concerning evidence that is overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> clearly...
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yesterday she sat down with senator mccain, gramm and ayat. senator mccain told reporters the information she gave the american people was incorrect, but a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video. it was not and there was compelling evidence that the time that was certainly not the case. the house transportation and infrastructure committee is holding at hearing on amtrak's restructuring plans. the committee will hear from the inspector general and amtrak's president and representative from the united transportation union live at 10:00 eastern on our companion network c-span. [applause] >> last night secretary of state condoleezza rice and chancellor of the new york city public schools joel kline had a somewhat on education reform in washington examining america's education system and the impact on national security. council on foreign relations moderates the discussion, about an hour. >> welcome to this evening, broadcast of morning joe. the energy in this room is a real testament to two things. one is how the education reform ha
yesterday she sat down with senator mccain, gramm and ayat. senator mccain told reporters the information she gave the american people was incorrect, but a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video. it was not and there was compelling evidence that the time that was certainly not the case. the house transportation and infrastructure committee is holding at hearing on amtrak's restructuring plans. the committee will hear from the inspector general and amtrak's president and...
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senator mccain was asked who do you blame more at this point? ambassador rice or president obama? he says the president is ultimately responsible. do you agree this is no longer about susan rice? she has cleared the air about her name? >> i don't think so. i mean, i'll let the senator speak for himself, i wasn't in that meeting behind closed doors today. but her coming forth with the mea culpa didn't satisfy these three senators, and i'm not sure if there are other senators not satisfied with it. she keeps her current job at the u.n., the question is, erin, of course, if the president nominates her to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state how the senate will feel about that at that time. >> general clark, how should they feel about that? should he go ahead and nominate her? >> yes, i think she's a very effective and very loyal public servant. i've worked with susan since 1994, she's honest, she's straightforward, she has america's best interest at heart. she's a person who gives 100% to the job and the country. i think she'd be an outstanding secretary of state. i think he
senator mccain was asked who do you blame more at this point? ambassador rice or president obama? he says the president is ultimately responsible. do you agree this is no longer about susan rice? she has cleared the air about her name? >> i don't think so. i mean, i'll let the senator speak for himself, i wasn't in that meeting behind closed doors today. but her coming forth with the mea culpa didn't satisfy these three senators, and i'm not sure if there are other senators not satisfied...
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senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte say they're even more troubled now after meeting with ambassador rice. the attack on libya on september 11 killed the u.s. ambassador, cries stevens and three other americans. five days later, ambassador rice went on the sunday talk shows and said u.s. officials believed it was a spontaneous reaction to protest over an anti-islam video. not a preplanned terrorist attack. first the controversy was over whether the white house made the change in the talking points. but that's past because intelligence officials say they gave ambassador rice those talking points. today senator graham called the information disconnected from reality. >> not only is the information bad and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >> shepard: rice said while we wish we had had perfect information, just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. neither i nor anyone else in the
senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte say they're even more troubled now after meeting with ambassador rice. the attack on libya on september 11 killed the u.s. ambassador, cries stevens and three other americans. five days later, ambassador rice went on the sunday talk shows and said u.s. officials believed it was a spontaneous reaction to protest over an anti-islam video. not a preplanned terrorist attack. first the controversy was over whether the white house made the change...
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in an hour, senators john mccain, mccainayotte, on the meeting with you and ambassador susan rice. majority whip dick durbin on negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. later, and look at how wall street investors are preparing for the possible tax hikes and budget cuts. >> on washington journal tomorrow morning, the investigation into the attacks in libya that killed four americans terry and the chief correspondent for the national journal. the rest of the program will focus on the so-called fiscal cliff and the bush ever income tax rates. >> our guests will also include ethan pollack. washington july want to spend every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> on 17 bases in the united states, we have military run schools. the average cost to educate a child in that school per year is $50,000. almost four times what the rest of public education costs. the vast majority of our bases, we use public schools. we could take the money we're spending today and pay every public school system $14,000 per child and save billions of dollars per year. > >> this weekend, you can talk with tom coburn
in an hour, senators john mccain, mccainayotte, on the meeting with you and ambassador susan rice. majority whip dick durbin on negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. later, and look at how wall street investors are preparing for the possible tax hikes and budget cuts. >> on washington journal tomorrow morning, the investigation into the attacks in libya that killed four americans terry and the chief correspondent for the national journal. the rest of the program will focus on the...